Comments on: Homosexuality and Church http://blog.zerodeviation.net/theology/homosexuality-and-church/ musings of an engineer, developer, and picky theologian Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:24:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Christoph http://blog.zerodeviation.net/theology/homosexuality-and-church/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Christoph Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:03:40 +0000 http://blog.zerodeviation.net/2007/06/19/homosexuality-and-church/#comment-25 <p>Thanks for your comment Thomas! I am not using the Bible as a scientific text, just as moral compass, because homosexuality is not a scientific issues but a moral one. It's is not a disease, as you rightly say, but it is a sin. Let me define sin: Anything that goes against what God says is sin. It's an archery term and "the sin of the arrow" is a measure of how much the arrow missed the target, so it's a measure of how much we missed God's perfect law. To profess being a Christian and NOT using God's Word to judge (or analyze if you will, judging sounds very negative) what is going on in the world today just doesn't make any sense. It's not like religion - in the positive sense of the word - happens in a bubble. Christians are supposed to "take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ", that is, watch everything through "God lenses." I am doing that because I believe the Bible is true in everything that it affirms, but that's another topic I would gladly talk to you about. The last point I want to make is that what I wrote above is in no way against homosexuals. They aren't any different than any other person living in sin. My heart breaks for them and having homosexual relatives confronts me with this every day! It's not like I am walking around pointing out other people's flaws. I have many of my own. And as I mentioned above, it's possible to turn away from it through Christ, so it's not trying to accomplish the impossible. I hope that made sense.</p> <p>Christoph</p> Thanks for your comment Thomas! I am not using the Bible as a scientific text, just as moral compass, because homosexuality is not a scientific issues but a moral one. It’s is not a disease, as you rightly say, but it is a sin. Let me define sin: Anything that goes against what God says is sin. It’s an archery term and “the sin of the arrow” is a measure of how much the arrow missed the target, so it’s a measure of how much we missed God’s perfect law. To profess being a Christian and NOT using God’s Word to judge (or analyze if you will, judging sounds very negative) what is going on in the world today just doesn’t make any sense. It’s not like religion – in the positive sense of the word – happens in a bubble. Christians are supposed to “take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ”, that is, watch everything through “God lenses.” I am doing that because I believe the Bible is true in everything that it affirms, but that’s another topic I would gladly talk to you about. The last point I want to make is that what I wrote above is in no way against homosexuals. They aren’t any different than any other person living in sin. My heart breaks for them and having homosexual relatives confronts me with this every day! It’s not like I am walking around pointing out other people’s flaws. I have many of my own. And as I mentioned above, it’s possible to turn away from it through Christ, so it’s not trying to accomplish the impossible. I hope that made sense.

Christoph

]]> By: Thomas http://blog.zerodeviation.net/theology/homosexuality-and-church/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Thomas Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:37:34 +0000 http://blog.zerodeviation.net/2007/06/19/homosexuality-and-church/#comment-24 <p>I'm at a loss for words, to me, reading this was just terrible. I'll talk to you soon, if you want to. Right now, just a few thoughts, maybe also for other people reading your blog: Homosexuality is neither a sin, nor a disease. It doesn't need to be cured. Moreover, using the bible (or any religious text) as scientific reference for natural or socio-scientific topics is not mature, but blinded.</p> <p>Greetings from Old Europe, bye Thomas</p> I’m at a loss for words, to me, reading this was just terrible. I’ll talk to you soon, if you want to. Right now, just a few thoughts, maybe also for other people reading your blog: Homosexuality is neither a sin, nor a disease. It doesn’t need to be cured. Moreover, using the bible (or any religious text) as scientific reference for natural or socio-scientific topics is not mature, but blinded.

Greetings from Old Europe, bye Thomas

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